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2024 Derby Futures Pool One Ratings


Pool One Futures Bet - Tuesday October 31 through Thursday, November 2.


This Pool can only be based on ability to run the 10f and the scale/balance that is advantageous at Churchill Downs on the First Saturday in May. These ratings have nothing to do with Future Derby Preps and only pertain to the 10f Derby race


The trick with a Futures Bet is to find the ones who shows promise for a speed favoring track and have the inbred capabilities to travel the 10f. They would also need to show success running against the grain if entered on incorrect bias or at an unsuitable short distance. Then you hope for the best.

 

#1 99-1 AGATE ROAD Trainer: Pletcher Rating: +++

DP = 2-2-8-2-0 (14) DI = 1.33 CD = 0.29 Mares = 9-2-2-7-10 Speed = 11 Stamina = 17 Index = 0.76 Triads = 13-11-19

Rear runner who took advantage of faltering lead speed at Aqueduct. Stamina driven. Not yet.

 

#2 99-1 AGOO Trainer: Beckman Rating: +

DP = 3-5-8-0-0 (16) DI = 3.00 CD = 0.69 Mares = 10-3-3-5-9 Speed = 13 Stamina = 14 Index = 1.00 Triads = 16-11-17

No chance in Kentucky Derby.

 

#3 60-1 AIR OF DEFIANCE Trainer: Brad Cox Rating: +++

DP = 1-4-7-0-0 (12) DI = 2.43 CD = 0.50 Mares = 12-2-3-8-6 Speed = 14 Stamina = 14 Index = 1.26 Triads = 17-13-17

Impressive stalking speed in a 13 gate field. Stamina from chefs. Balanced through mares.

Not the typical set-up, mid-range with sub-par triads, but seems to be running through his numbers.

More confirmation with a successful performance on a speedier track over 7f may be in order.

Important to track this colt and revisit for Pool Two. There is something to his balance that works.

 

#4 99-1 BALTA Trainer: Lobo Rating: ++

DP = 3-2-7-2-0 (14) DI = 1.55 CD = 0.43 Mares = 9-5-4-7-8 Speed = 14 Stamina = 15 Index = 1.00 Triads = 18-16-19

Not bad - but, not good either. Middle of the road and so far, quite slow.

 

#5 99-1 BE YOU Trainer: Pletcher Rating: ++

DP = 6-6-10-0-0 (22) DI = 3.40 CD = 0.82 Mares = 7-5-1-6-10 Speed = 12 Stamina = 16 Index = 0.74 Triads = 13-12-17

These numbers will never work in the Kentucky Derby.

 

#6 99-1 BENTORNATO Trainer: D'Angelo Rating: +++++

DP = 1-0-1-0-0 (2) DI = 3.00 CD = 1.00 Mares = 5-1-7-8-6 Speed = 6 Stamina = 14 Index = 0.67 Triads = 13-16-21

Magnificent front running style on speedy Gulfstream surface with killer stamina capability.

Mares triads just slightly off but the speed he has shown far outweighs the left slope.

Undefeated in 4 races. A Mama's boy. Excellent Potential.

 

#7 99-1 BERGEN Trainer: Brad Cox Rating: +++

DP = 3-13-2-0-0 (18) DI = 17.00 CD = 1.06 Mares = 1-9-7-9-2 Speed = 10 Stamina = 11 Index = 0.90 Triads = 17-25-18

Would advise to hold off until Pool 2 or 3. Short Keeneland maiden won after leads faltered on harder bias.

17.00 index did not produce expected speed. Triads nice, but point spread lacks.

Could upgrade at a later date, need to see more displayed speed with his mid-pack running style.

 

#8 99-1 BILLAL Trainer: Bill Mott Rating: +++

DP = 3-2-9-0-0 (14) DI = 2.11 CD = 0.57 Mares = 5-8-0-10-7 Speed = 13 Stamina = 17 Index = 0.75 Triads = 13-18-17

Displayed stamina at Aqueduct with stalking style to win at 7f. Needs to continue same on speedier track.

Wait for Pool 2 or Pool 3.

 

#9 60-1 BOOTH Trainer: Asmussen Rating: +

DP = 2-1-6-1-0 (10) DI = 1.50 CD = 0.40 Mares = 12-4-1-9-3 Speed = 16 Stamina = 12 Index = 1.81 Triads = 17-14-13

Huge chance at becoming a very successful miler/sprinter. No chance at all in 10f Derby.

 

#10 99-1 CATCHING FREEDOM Trainer: Brad Cox Rating: +++++

DP = 2-5-3-0-0 (10) DI = 5.67 CD = 0.90 Mares = 5-5-7-6-5 Speed = 10 Stamina = 11 Index = 0.96 Triads = 17-18-18

Second generation Tapit which assists mare's numbers. Winning maiden at 8f at Churchill Downs.

Runs mid-pack shows allegiance to Tapit. High 5.67 index. A definite keeper.

 

#11 99-1 DANCING GROOM Trainer: Sano Rating: +++

DP = 2-5-7-0-0 (14) DI = 3.00 CD = 0.64 Mares = 6-3-5-5-8 Speed = 9 Stamina = 13 Index = 0.77 Triads = 14-13-18

Vino Rosso son who needs distance. Displayed speed lacking in short race, still successful at 8f in spite of it.

Needs time to percolate. Should upgrade at later time as track lengthens. Not yet.

 

#12 99-1 DOMESTIC PRODUCT Trainer: Chad Brown Rating: +++

DP = 0-2-2-0-0 (4) DI = 3.00 CD = 0.50 Mares = 8-4-4-11-6 Speed = 12 Stamina = 17 Index = 0.89 Triads = 16-19-21

Son of Practical Joke with damsire Paynter. Conflicted with his balance. Same as Dancing Groom.

Needs time to see which way he sways. Better at longer distance. Possible Pool Two after another race.

 

#13 60-1 DORNOCH Trainer: Danny Gargan Rating: +++++

DP = 2-4-8-0-0 (14) DI = 2.50 CD = 0.57 Mares = 7-8-2-9-8 Speed = 15 Stamina = 17 Index = 0.89 Triads = 17-19-19

Son of Good Magic who displays killer speed on the lead. Mid-range chefs with great mare balance.

Possible to thrive on AWS and Belmont as well. Incredible potential here. Excellent.

 

#14 99-1 DRUM ROLL PLEASE Trainer: Brad Cox Rating: +++++

DP = 6-4-12-0-0 (22) DI = 2.67 CD = 0.73 Mare Profile = 2-5-8-12-3 Speed = 7 Stamina = 15 Index = 0.65 Triads = 15-25-23

Son of Hard Spun. Same dynamics as Dornoch, but displayed speed so far is slower. Better going longer.

Mid-range colt with exceptional mare numbers. Works in Belmont Stakes as well.

 

#15 99-1 FIERCENESS Trainer: Pletcher Rating: +++

DP = 1-3-2-0-0 (6) DI = 5.00 CD = 0.83 Mares = 5-6-6-8-5 Speed = 11 Stamina = 13 Index = 0.92 Triads = 17-20-19

These are advantaged Kentucky Derby numbers, Rain or shine but ANZ jumps from a 5.00 to a 9.00.

Bombed last at 8.5f because of bad break. Keep on the sidelines and revisit for Pool Two. Could have too much speed.

 

#16 80-1 GENERAL PARTNER Trainer: Chad Brown Rating: +

DP = 5-9-12-0-0 (26) DI = 3.33 CD = 0.73 Mares = 9-5-2-7-7 Speed = 14 Stamina = 14 Index = 1.09 Triads = 16-14-16

Just no.

 

#17 80-1 GENEROUS TIPPER Trainer: Kenny McPeek Rating: ++++

DP = 4-2-8-0-0 (14) DI = 2.50 CD = 0.71 Mares = 6-5-2-13-5 Speed = 11 Stamina = 18 Index = 0.76 Triads = 13-20-20

Son of Street Sense. Rear runner with stamina to burn. Needs distance - a lot of distance.

Would capitalize off of extreme pace only, but this has happened in last 2 Derby editions.

Will not have an easy time along the way unless harsher bias or speed duels up to 9f.

 

#18 99-1 GLENGARRY Trainer: Doug Anderson Rating: ++

DP = 0-5-3-0-0 (8) DI = 4.33 CD = 0.63 Mares = 9-5-3-10-2 Speed = 14 Stamina = 12 Index = 1.53 Triads = 17-18-15

Undefeated in three races, all at 6f. They shouldn't venture too far past that.

 

#19 99-1 INFORMED PATRIOT Trainer: Asmussen Rating: +++

DP = 3-6-13-0-0 (22) DI = 2.38 CD = 0.55 Mare Profile = 4-5-5-9-4 Speed = 9 Stamina = 13 Index = 0.82 Triads = 14-19-18

Another mid-range colt with excellent numbers who needs distance. This one needs time. We need much more

evidence of speed ability with his strong stamina mare line. Pool Two. Great name!

 

#20 60-1 LIBERAL ARTS Trainer: Medina Rating: ++++

DP = 2-12-2-0-0 (16) DI = 15.00 CD = 1.00 Mares = 4-5-5-9-6 Speed = 9 Stamina = 15 Index = 0.69 Triads = 14-19-20

Save for Pool Two. Son of Arrogate with a 15.00 index. Need to see mare dominance on clean track.

Excellent Running Style shows mare leaning but better to wait for a different bias.

 

#21 99-1 LIGHTLINE Trainer: Brad Cox Rating: +

DP = 0-2-3-1-0 (6) DI = 1.40 CD = 0.17 Mares = 6-4-7-4-6 Speed = 10 Stamina = 10 Index = 1.00 Triads = 17-15-17

No chance.

 

#22 15-1 LOCKED Trainer: Pletcher Rating: +++

DP = 2-2-8-0-0 (12) DI = 2.00 CD = 0.50 Mares = 6-2-5-6-9 Speed = 8 Stamina = 15 Index = 0.66 Triads = 13-13-20

With these configurations, the horse has alot to prove on a speed favoring track. Mid-range colt with hefty stamina.

Definitely wait for next Pools for all the evidence needed for like bias at Churchill in Spring. Too soon.

 

#23 80-1 MOONLIGHT Trainer: Pletcher Rating: +++++

DP = 1-4-3-0-0 (8) DI = 4.33 CD = 0.75 Mares = 5-5-10-8-4 Speed = 10 Stamina = 12 Index = 0.96 Triads = 20-23-22

Top Derby Configurations on this list. Excellent Potential for the Trail and Perfect for Derby.

Will excel at further distances. Perfect for fast speed bias.

Showed success on sloppy track, just in case the same on Derby Day.

 

#24 99-1 NASH Trainer: Brad Cox Rating = +

DP = 8-8-10-2-0 (28) DI = 3.00 CD = 0.79 Mares = 11-4-1-6-8 Speed = 15 Stamina = 14 Index = 1.17 Triads = 16-11-15

A fine example of horrendous Derby configurations, no better way to say it.

 

#25 99-1 NORMANDY HERO Trainer: Brisset Rating: +++

DP = 3-3-4-0-0 (10) DI = 4.00 CD = 0.90 Mares = 6-5-7-8-3 Speed = 11 Stamina = 11 Index = 1.14 Triads = 18-20-18

Son of Omaha Beach. Jumps from a 4.00 all the way up to an ANZ of 7.00. Should display more speed than he has.

Not bad, but not good either. Not enough proof yet, even with 5 races under his belt.

Something isn't sitting right with it. Best to monitor this guy, not running to his numbers, yet.

 

#26 99-1 OTTO THE CONQUEROR Trainer: Asmussen Rating: +++++

DP = 4-2-4-0-0 (10) DI = 4.00 CD = 1.00 Mares = 5-5-3-10-4 Speed = 10 Stamina = 14 Index = 0.86 Triads = 13-18-17

Very impressive. Lead runner. Two successful very fast wins won at Churchill already. Nothing to fault.

Main stand-out feature with his speedy 4.00 is his ANZ drops down to a 2.67. There we find that extra stamina.

That part is excellent because mares triads slightly off, but scale is good. Very intriguing for Derby Potential.

 

#27 99-1 NOTED Trainer: Pletcher Rating: +++++

DP = 2-3-3-0-0 (8) DI = 4.33 CD = 0.88 Mares = 5-4-5-12-3 Speed = 9 Stamina = 15 Index = 0.83 Triads = 14-21-20

Top Derby Configurations on this list. Will excel at 10f in Kentucky, rain or shine.

 

#28 80-1 Nutella Fella Trainer: Contessa Rating: +

DP = 2-7-1-0-0 (10) DI = 19.00 CD = 1.10 Mares = 6-5-4-7-5 Speed = 11 Stamina = 12 Index = 1.00 Triads = 15-16-16

No Chance.

 

#29 50-1 PRIVATE DESIRE Trainer: Pletcher Rating: +

DP = 1-5-4-0-0 (10) DI = 4.00 CD = 0.70 Mares = 6-7-3-6-6 Speed = 13 Stamina = 12 Index = 1.05 Triads = 16-16-15

No Chance.

 

#30 99-1 RAGING TORRENT Trainer: O'Neill Rating: +

DP = 2-4-2-0-0 (8) DI = 7.00 CD = 1.00 Mares = 6-6-4-8-4 Speed = 12 Stamina = 12 Index = 1.10 Triads = 16-18-16

No chance.

 

#31 99-1 RISK IT Trainer: Asmussen Rating : +++

DP = 2-3-6-1-0 (12) DI = 2.00 CD = 0.50 Mares = 4-5-5-10-5 Speed = 9 Stamina = 15 Index = 0.72 Triads = 14-20-20

Showed excellent promise in gate to wire victory traveling only 6f.

Came back in Iroquios, placed 2nd, very slow. Wait for next performance.

Could be too early in career for a Candy Ride descendent.

 

#32 99-1 ROCKETEER Trainer: Brad Cox Rating: ++

DP = 4-4-6-0-0 (14) DI = 3.67 CD = 0.86 Mares = 8-2-3-7-7 Speed = 10 Stamina = 14 Index = 0.88 Triads = 13-12-17

Nice lead tier 7f winner against a field of 12 but not enough displayed speed to latch onto those mares numbers.

Could upgrade at later date but not a wise futures bet now. Triads are incorrect. Need more proof.

 

#33 99-1 SEIZE the GREY Trainer: Lukas Rating: +++

DP = 7-16-9-0-0 (32) DI = 6.11 CD = 0.94 Mare Profile = 4-6-4-9-6 Speed = 10 Stamina = 15 Index = 0.72 Triads = 14-19-19

Son of Arrogate with Killer configurations but does not appear to be running to them.

Keep on the back burner to see if he figures out what he is truly built with.

Revisit at Pool Two if his maturity hits his inheritance at that time.

 

#34 50-1 STRETCH RIDE Trainer: Dale Romans Rating: +++

DP = 2-1-9-0-0 (12) DI = 1.67 CD = 0.42 Mares = 8-5-3-9-5 Speed = 13 Stamina = 14 Index = 1.09 Triads = 16-17-17

Undefeated in 2 races at 6f and 8.5. Stalker. Nothing bad, however, simply low-keyed. Boring configurations.

Not special enough in the numbers and performances follow that as well, so far. Even though he has done nothing wrong,

there needs to be some "fire" and we haven't seen it. Triads lack. Could need more distance to show off. Revisit.

 

#35 99-1 STRONGHOLD Trainer: Phil D'Amato Rating: +

DP = 2-4-6-0-0 (12) DI = 3.00 CD = 0.67 Mares = 10-4-2-8-4 Speed = 14 Stamina = 12 Index = 1.44 Triads = 16-14-14

This could never happen. No chance.

 

#36 30-1 THE WINE STEWARD Trainer: Mike Maker Rating: ++++

DP = 1-3-4-0-0 (8) DI = 3.00 CD = 0.63 Mares = 7-3-3-5-10 Speed = 10 Stamina = 15 Index = 0.71 Triads = 13-11-18

Son of Vino Rosso who most likely needs alot more distance. Not built with excessive speed and surely knows how to

capitalize off of his stamina. Will get progressively better with distance. He has displayed speed. Built for a very

aggressive pace to run into, which we have had in last 2 editions, or even the Belmont Stakes. Should easily make

a gate in Kentucky and then he is pace dependent. That's the risk here.

 

#37 20-1 TIMBERLAKE Trainer: Brad Cox Rating: ++++

DP = 2-2-6-4-0 (14) DI = 1.00 CD = 0.14 Mares = 7-8-4-7-8 Speed = 15 Stamina = 15 Index = 0.96 Triads = 19-19-19

Son of Into Mischief with chef numbers opposite the norm. Showed best form in his maiden traveling gate to wire at 7f.

Obvious speed leanings with ability to run on sloppy surface. Even balance from mares. Tricky with the chefs.

Best to wait until Pool Two, after Juvenile performance on Santa Anita track, to see if stamina side is compromised or if

odds float up if he looses. If he wins, odds only get worse. At 20-1 with 6 months to go, not the best bet of this Pool.

 

#38 80-1 WEST SARATOGA Trainer: Demeritte Rating: ++

DP = 2-3-5-0-0 (10) DI = 3.00 CD = 0.70 Mares = 8-3-2-9-7 Speed = 11 Stamina = 16 Index = 0.84 Triads = 13-14-18

These are not Kentucky Derby numbers.

 

#39 80-1 All Fillies from the 2021 Foal Crop

#40 3-5 All Other Colts and Geldings from the 2021 Foal Crop

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